This is the multi-page printable view of this section. Click here to print.

Return to the regular view of this page.

Conversations

These are the active conversations on the table for the Naftiko go-to-market, and once a podcast occurs or a conversation gets used as part of podcasts, shorts, and other storytelling, it will be put into the archive, keeping this an active representation of the conversations on the table.

1 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 13th, 2025

This is a placeholder for upcoming episode of the Naftiko Capabilities podcast, providing a placeholder as the work occurs, ensuring that we are planning ahead, with the work being published here as it is available, with different rates of work ocurring ahead of time, based upon the conversations we have and what topics we are planning.

The is a placeholder for an upcoming episode, with work added when ready.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

2 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 15th, 2025

This is a placeholder for upcoming episode of the Naftiko Capabilities podcast, providing a placeholder as the work occurs, ensuring that we are planning ahead, with the work being published here as it is available, with different rates of work ocurring ahead of time, based upon the conversations we have and what topics we are planning.

The is a placeholder for an upcoming episode, with work added when ready.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

3 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 20th, 2025

This is a placeholder for upcoming episode of the Naftiko Capabilities podcast, providing a placeholder as the work occurs, ensuring that we are planning ahead, with the work being published here as it is available, with different rates of work ocurring ahead of time, based upon the conversations we have and what topics we are planning.

The is a placeholder for an upcoming episode, with work added when ready.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

4 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 22nd, 2025

This is a placeholder for upcoming episode of the Naftiko Capabilities podcast, providing a placeholder as the work occurs, ensuring that we are planning ahead, with the work being published here as it is available, with different rates of work ocurring ahead of time, based upon the conversations we have and what topics we are planning.

The is a placeholder for an upcoming episode, with work added when ready.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

5 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 26th, 2025

This is a placeholder for upcoming episode of the Naftiko Capabilities podcast, providing a placeholder as the work occurs, ensuring that we are planning ahead, with the work being published here as it is available, with different rates of work ocurring ahead of time, based upon the conversations we have and what topics we are planning.

The is a placeholder for an upcoming episode, with work added when ready.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

6 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 29th, 2025

This is a placeholder for upcoming episode of the Naftiko Capabilities podcast, providing a placeholder as the work occurs, ensuring that we are planning ahead, with the work being published here as it is available, with different rates of work ocurring ahead of time, based upon the conversations we have and what topics we are planning.

The is a placeholder for an upcoming episode, with work added when ready.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

7 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 6th, 2025

The first episode is with Mike Amundsen and Christian Posta talking about capabilities, coming at them from the hypermedia and semantics side as well as the artificical intelligence and gateway perspective, kicking off the first episode to begin exploring what capabilities are with two thought leaders in the space who have done a lot of thinking and writing on the subject.

The first episode focused on capabilities with Mike Amundsen and Christian Posta.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • What is a capability? - Mike Amundsen
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • What is a capability? - Christian Posta
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

8 - Naftiko Capabilities Podcast - January 8th, 2025

This is a placeholder for upcoming episode of the Naftiko Capabilities podcast, providing a placeholder as the work occurs, ensuring that we are planning ahead, with the work being published here as it is available, with different rates of work ocurring ahead of time, based upon the conversations we have and what topics we are planning.

The is a placeholder for an upcoming episode, with work added when ready.

Table of Contents

  • Intro - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Topic - ????
  • Segway - Kin Lane
  • Closing - Kin Lane

9 - Conversation with Sam Newman in November 2025

Sat down with Sam Newman to talk microservices, and learn more about what he is seeing with the companies he consults with, as well as how microservices have evolved as part of the artificial intelligence shift in the landscape, drawing some parralells between the domain work and right-sizing with microservices and language models.

Very relevant discussion about hypermedia and capabilities that provides a good deal of material for Naftiko storytelling.

Questions

  • Who are you?
  • What is a microservice?
  • What percentage of microservices are people vs. technology?
  • How are microservices dependent on organizational structures?
  • What have you learned from the last ten years of microservices?
  • How do you assess if an organization is ready for microservices?
  • What is the impact of AI you’ve seen on organizations?
  • Is AI supposed to be controlled by us, or control us?
  • Do you feel like small language models are the future?
  • What role does ownership and accountability play in AI?
  • What recommendations do you have to help right-size capabilities?
  • How does the changing in team structures impact success?
  • What is the role that STEM plays in your work?
  • What recommendations do you have for people just starting?

10 - Conversation with Simon Wardley in November 2025

Had a great conversation with Simon Wardley about Wardely Mapping, but also the politics in technology and how he compares the AI evolution to the cloud shift in the computing landscape, and got his views on the geopolitical aspects of artificial intelligence, while ending focused on the way he uses LinkedIn.

Very relevant discussion about hypermedia and capabilities that provides a good deal of material for Naftiko storytelling.

Questions

  • What is Wardley mapping?
  • Is there politics in technology?
  • What do you say to people when they say AI will be cheaper?
  • How do we make AI visible?
  • What are the implications of AI at the geopolitical level?
  • Can you talk to how you use LinkedIn?
  • What gives you hope right now?

11 - Conversation with Christian Posta of Solo October 2025

This is a conversation with Christian Posta about MCP and capabilities, approach the capabilities conversation from the very technical network view, but also as defined by artificial intelligence and Christina’s focus on MCP and authentication, helping provide valuable input on what we do at Naftiko.

A view of the capabilities discussion from the network perspective and artificial intelligence.

Questions

  • What is a Capability? 2:08
  • What is a natural language description of capabilities mean? 4:27
  • What is the role of identity and access management?
  • What is the role of the gateway when it comes to AI?
  • Are Agent Gateways centralized or federated?
  • What is the commercial open-source strategy of the Agent Gateway?
  • What do you need from the community?

12 - Conversation with David Boyne of EventCatalog October 2025

This is a conversation with David Boyne about EventCatalog, and the role that events play in discovery and visibliity of our infrastructure, working to align event-driven architecture with how Naftiko is approach the signals coming from enterprises, and understanding where Event Catalog fits into the picture.

Walk through the different uses of EventCatalog and how it helps with integrations.

Questions

  • What is Event Catalog?
  • What role does event-driven architect play in discoverability and visibility?
  • Can events help us document our systems in real-time?
  • What thinking goes into your support of open-source specifications?
  • How does Event Catalog help map your business domain?
  • Does Event Catalog help out at the tactical level?
  • How do you approach commercial open-source?
  • Can event-driven architecture help with ephemeral API discovery?
  • Do you feel event-driven will provide the richness and semantics AI agents will need?
  • How do we get more business people involved with Event Catalog?
  • What is your biggest need right now?

13 - Conversation with Mike Amundsen of Apiture October 2025

Sat down with Kevin Swiber to talk about hypermedia, but also the diff between hypermedia view of things and MCP, understanding more about the semantics we will need for AI agents to work, building on top of Kevin’s great work around MCP, but coming from his wealth of experience when it comes to API management over the years.

Very relevant discussion about hypermedia and capabilities that provides a good deal of material for Naftiko storytelling.

Questions

  • What is your experience with hypermedia? 2:04
  • What has changed from hypermedia to MCP? 5:53
  • Do we have the semantics needed for AI agents?
  • Is the world messy?
  • What keeps you going with your work?

14 - Conversation with Mike Amundsen of Apiture October 2025

Spent an hour with Mike Amundsen looking at microservices and hypermedia, but also went in deep on the role that ontology and taxonomy play in what we are trying to accomplish with artifiicial intelligence, walking through the cast of characters who have invested in what we need to make sense of information at scale.

Very relevant discussion about hypermedia and capabilities that provides a good deal of material for Naftiko storytelling.

Questions

  • What has changed since you wrote your first API book?
  • What’s the state of the web today?
  • What is the state of micro services?
  • What is hypermedia? 1:29
  • What is the role of information architecture in providing the meaning we need?
  • What is the role of ontology and taxonomy in hypermedia? 2:04
  • What was Ted Nelson a literary radical?
  • Who was Wendy Hall?
  • Who was Leonard Richardson?
  • What is a capability? 4:13
  • Who should be in the room when. Crafting capabilities? 1:53
  • How do we reconcile traditional automation and orchestration with agentic?
  • How do you help people understand and apply semantics?
  • How do you recommend folks stay grounded in hype cycles like today?
  • How do you help people be successful with AI in their work when they don’t have. Much control?

15 - Conversation with David Biesack of Apiture October 2025

A very compelling conversation with David Biesack about JSON Schema, and a deep dive into how they are using it for managing OpenAPI, but also their change log and pipelines, offering a compelling look at the roll that JSON Schema should and can play when it comes APIs, but also specifically schema.

A great discussion of the spectrum of uses by Apiture of JSON Schema to validate and stabilize operations.

Questions

  • How are you using JSON Schema?
  • Should your average developer have to deal with schema references?
  • How do you manage schema discovery?
  • How do you generate schema change logs?
  • When do you use YAML vs JSON?
  • How do you extend schema?
  • How do extensions help share how people use schema?
  • How do you educate people about schema?