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Conversation with Mike Amundsen of Apiture October 2025

Sat down with Kevin Swiber to talk about hypermedia, but also the diff between hypermedia view of things and MCP, understanding more about the semantics we will need for AI agents to work, building on top of Kevin’s great work around MCP, but coming from his wealth of experience when it comes to API management over the years.

    Very relevant discussion about hypermedia and capabilities that provides a good deal of material for Naftiko storytelling.

    Questions

    • What is your experience with hypermedia? 2:04
    • What has changed from hypermedia to MCP? 5:53
    • Do we have the semantics needed for AI agents?
    • Is the world messy?
    • What keeps you going with your work?